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Looking for stale-bedding / occultation / tarping advice dcaisenbrey Friday, October 2, 2015 - 3:07pm Tuesday, November 24, 2015 - 9:03am 5
Would welcome a farm hack event at our place! DragonflyRanch Monday, September 28, 2015 - 11:56am Monday, September 28, 2015 - 11:56am 0
Just curious: would you add a set of welded coulters to front frame if you were using this drill to plant into heavy residue? greenunderbelly Monday, September 21, 2015 - 11:52pm Tuesday, September 22, 2015 - 11:06am 1
Bicitractor : Culticyle from Farming Soul Farming Soul Monday, September 21, 2015 - 12:13pm Monday, September 21, 2015 - 12:13pm 0
Dry-land tool: Land Imprinter Joel_BC Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - 10:51am Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - 10:51am 0
Farm Hack Manchester, UK, October 2015 carolinejaneward Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - 8:31am Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - 8:31am 0
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Ingenious homemade homestead device & equipment sites Joel_BC Friday, September 4, 2015 - 10:17pm Monday, March 6, 2017 - 8:38pm 5
Farm Hack @ Draft Animal Powered Field Days user1 Thursday, September 3, 2015 - 7:32pm Thursday, September 3, 2015 - 7:32pm 0
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dorn's picture
<p> You might try contacting the original author (<a href="http://farmhack.org/users/adamappleseed">http://farmhack.org/users/adamappleseed</a>) by clicking on their profile and sending a private message.&nbsp; Some content may have been lost in the transition to the upgraded tool format.&nbsp; I would love to see a detailed sketch-up layout and Bill of materials for this project too!&nbsp;</p>
dorn's picture

Welcome to the Farm Hack Community!  Have you checked out the Open Pipe kit project and FarmOS on Farm Hack?  I think that there is a lot of overlap.  Would be great to get cross pollination going.

Nicolea's picture
<p> Hello,</p> <p> I am not able to find the materials and instructions for this project.......Do they exist or are the links not working?</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> Thank you</p>
Jeff McCabe's picture
<p> Hi jennajane,</p> <p> I have made a simple controller that we can sell (so far) for $150 US. &nbsp;It is a bit time consuming&nbsp;and no profit for us so far, but I hope to get our cost down as I look into various options to have it assembled. &nbsp;This is very new territory for us and we only have 2 of&nbsp;installations so far in the field.</p> <p> It basically is just a 2 stage thermostat that is wired to a cycle timer. &nbsp;It is in a NEMA4&nbsp;watertight container. &nbsp;We make it/sell it pre-wired on a length of 1/2" flex&nbsp;water tight conduit. &nbsp;We also try to sell the motors for the lowest price on the market ($175US&nbsp;currently) and can supply the 24V transformer if needed (or you can search for LED transformers online - we use 150W). &nbsp;Glad to share any info on the controller and develop it as an open source project. &nbsp;(just not a lot of time so far to spend on the publishing, and lots more testing to do)</p> <p> Ideally, the ultimate circuit will also have over-amperage protection for the motors as it is somewhat common for automated sides to get damaged when caught on obstructing objects. &nbsp;I am hoping that the over-amperage protection in the 150W&nbsp;power supply might help serve this purpose, though we have yet to test this.</p> <p> We also have a version of this controller for linear actuator motors for ventilation louvers. &nbsp;By replacing the line voltage motors that are standard on hoophouses/greenhouses that draw power the entire time the louvers are open with a highly geared DC linear actuator, the average energy use is cut to about 1/1000th. (from about $50/yr to about 5 cents)</p>
jbd's picture
<p> Do you want to correlate bales with their production location in the field? Or just know which field a particular bale came from? Either way, you'll need a way of identifying each bale in order to correlate back to where in the field that bale was produced.</p> <p> With windrowing and tedding, it may be more difficult to determine which section of a field the hay in a bale came from. You can probably get within 20' feet (depending on width of your tedder/rake), but when the grass gets thin, then the numbers would get a bit sketchy.</p>
farmerm's picture
<p> Does it matter what kind of slow cookers you use? I.e. just one with a manual switch that has "Hi, Lo, Off"? We're going to be starting our build this weekend and I want to have the right kind of slow cooker. I'm a rookie at this stuff so please forgive if this is an obvious question. Do you have more detailed pictures of the way you connected the heat and humidity controls to the crock pots?</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> Thanks!</p>
jbd's picture
<p> I don't think you really want to replace the existing counter; you really just want to count bales and log their production.</p> <p> The first thing I would consider is all the interface points to existing systems - both mechanical and telecom. And one would need to know what software will be at the other end. The reasoning for this is:</p> <ol> <li> Do you want this to work for many models of balers, or just yours?</li> <li> Do you want to send the data real-time or accumulate it on a SD card? (How the information will be used on the receiving end can answer this question.)</li> </ol> <p> However, knowing how most balers work (for small square bales), I would look at attaching a reed switch to the trip arm that runs the counter. Put a door sensor at some point in its travel path, and then count the number of pulses using a Beaglebone/Ardinuo/RaspPi/... (By "count", I mean generate a data item for each pulse - that data item could include GPS location, date/time, and a count.)</p>
kevingant's picture

I'd like to see something like the Allis Chalmers G or Hefty G but a more modern version of it like they have in Europe which they call Tool Carriers.

On both the Mazzotti and Tracmaster, you can adjust the length of the tractor via the center bar that goes to the front axle. Of course, you are limited to a certain length. They both appear to have hydraulic 3 point on the rear and mid-mount. One of them appears to also have a PTO at mid-mount as well in the rear.

A lot of these appear to be used in pine tree nurseryes. I know of place in Canada that sells the Egedal Tracmaster. However, it is very cost prohibitive at $100k for the 2WD version (400) plus shipping from Denmark.

I've been looking at hydraulic motors, stearable motors, pumps and systems to power a tractor like this. I also like the idea of having a hydraulic 3 point in mid and rear. If one used a a parallelogram setup cultivator like a Steketee Hoeing Element you wouldn't necessarily need a depth control (draft control?).

Once setup, I'd like to use is a front mounted side dresser or compost tea sprayer, mid mount cultivator and rear mounted sweeps to loosen the tire tracks. I'd also like to be able to possible remove the diesel engine for electric/battery power.

The one issue I see is switching out mid-mount implements. My easiest solution is to utilize an implement caddy but would probably require you to be on a concrete surface to easily move the caddies around.

The creeper gear would be nice as well to pull a transplanter reducing the need for an additional tractor for smaller farms.

Update: A French company Terrateck has created something similar to this. It's called the Culti'track. It's maybe a bit more paired down version than those I listed above.  http://www.terrateck.com/en/portes-outils/50-tracteur-porte-outils-maraicher-culti-track.html

chriscallahanuvm's picture
<p> Great job Stephan.</p>
cripplecreekproduce's picture
<p> hi there are the plans for the root washer&nbsp;available yet. I'm getting ready to start building one and was curious as I want to be exact when i go to build mine.</p> <p> Any help is greatly appreciated</p> <p> Thanks Luke</p>
Donal's picture

Hi RSiegfried,

Thank you very much for your response. Great info here. The system you mention for $500, is that off the shelf or a DIY job? I'm trying to figure out what do non-tech farmers use. How much would the annual data package and cloud solution typical cost (maybe tricky to put a value on this I guess).

Seems that power is still the issue but a lot of progress here. 

Donal.

Donal's picture

Hi Bruce,

Thanks for the great response. When I say wireless I'm was thinking aspects of cellular and 802.11 but whatever is best. from you response, it is clear that power is a big issue so maybe something like Zigbee or SIGFOX used for IoT would be a better fit to reduce power consumption. But I guess you still have the issue of maintaining the batteries...

The watering idea is interesting, watering at night as I assume the rates are cheaper?

I would be interested in hearing of any off the shelf products or service companies and also interested to see why people don't use wireless solution more.

 

Thanks again,

Donal.

RSiegfried's picture

Many farmers are collecting data on yields, labor, sales, etc. to allow them to evaluate every enterprise on the farm, and to build profitable business.  The importance of financial data to the life of a farm is critical.  In a similar way, monitoring environmental conditions on a farm can provide improved yields, reduced risks of loss, and just reduce the overall feeling of uncertainty that many farmers have when away from the farm.  

There are sensors for air and soil temperature, humidity, soil moisture, frost, light, gates open/closed, water levels, battery condition, and dozens of others.  These sensors can be fitted with different transmitting technologies that range from 300 feet, to 1000's of feet, even out to as much as 9 miles.  The sensors data is often gathered by a "gateway" which pushes the data to the cloud via a cellular connection.  Farmers can connect to the data via computer, tablet, or phone.  Alerts and alarms can be set to notify the farmer when any sensor detects unfavorable conditions.  

Powering sensors and wireless transmitters has historically required solar panels and 12 v batteries.  But many technologies are emerging that are focused on minimizing power usage, allowing 3v and 5v batteries to last years.  New batteries are further extending sensor life.   Wireless sensors using 2 AA batteries are now available that can easily run for 1 to 2 years without battery changes, perhaps even longer.  The gateways typically require a AC power supply, and thus are located in a barn, heated greenhouse, or farm office.  

Currently most of these systems are designed to serve server rooms, commercial cold storage, and the pharmaceutical industry.  But they can be adapted to the farm with little effort.  These systems can monitor your walk-in cooler, heated greenhouse in winter, and hoop house in the summer.  They can remind you to charge your 12 v battery, that the barn door is open, or that the power is off on the water pump.  They can measure soi moisture, and tell you when to irrigate, or turn on the water itself.  A basic system can be put on a farm for about $500, plus some annual charges for cellular plans and cloud based data storage.  All of your data from different systems can now be stored and accessed from a single location in the cloud.  

Small farmers will succeed by farming smarter, not hard.  And data is at the heart of that approach.  

jbd's picture

Do you mean cellular wireless, 802.14.* wireless, 802.11 wireless, ...?

Otherwise, there's lots of things that could be "connected", but must be connected without a wire. Fields, stock, product, equipment, ... Fields for monitoring soil health, stock for monitoring their health, product for location and maximum sell date, equipment for maintenance records and uses... There's lots of things, and a few tools already on this site - just need more, and its becoming apparent that a method of integrating the info produced by the tools is needed.

One of the biggest ancillary "problems" that goes with wireless, is how to get the power to the device - if only to support the device and its ability to transmit/receive. Batteries go only so far, and are a pain to maintain when they are remote. There needs to be better solutions!

Another thing is recordkeeping - for example, you move goats to another pasture - having that move automatically recorded for you would save a lot of time at the end of (a perhaps hectic) day, and it would be accurate. Same with equipment... I don't know how often I've missed fluid changes because I couldn't remember how often I've use the tractor/truck/... And plants, not only would it be nice to know how wet/fertile/... your soil is - you could save lots of water by not watering it if you didn't need to... Or if you had it automatically watered at night instead of during the day.

The list goes on and on...

--Bruce

westflgator's picture
<p> I have an old IH model 10 grain drill and I was looking for ideas on how I might convert it to a no till drill.&nbsp; However, this gives me another idea if I can't convert mine...</p>
holbrookfarm's picture
<p> Hello there! I met you at the NEVF conference in NH a few months ago. You let me ride your AMAZING invention in the lobby. I would love to help you in any way I can. Please let me know what I can do! This is amazing.&nbsp;</p> <p> Jess</p>
nbekaert's picture
<p> Please feel free to contact us with any questions</p>
DGrover's picture

Hey there, 

You should contact RuralHub, they will probably be a good place to start. 

https://www.facebook.com/RuralHub/?pnref=about.overview

http://www.ruralhub.it/

--Daniel

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<p> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.806512639446998.1073741848.178707018894233&amp;type=3&nbsp;</p>
Lucky Luc's picture

 

 

 

Lucky Luc's picture

There's a company in Saskatchewan that specialized in solar powered livestock waterers. Basically, theres two types of systems.

 

First one is a trenched water line into a vertical casing in the ground. The bottom of the casing is sealed and long enough to go below the frost line. There's a submersible pump wired to a controller and powered by solar panels. There's a motion switch to detect the presence of animals, this starts the pump and feeds the through built atop the casing. When the motion detector stops seeing animals, its cuts out the pump and the water flows back under the freezing point.

The other uses a insulated through and the turnover created by the animals drinking to ensure water doesn't freeze.

www.kellnsolar.com

Much better description on the site. Will post pictures of ours at home. They run amazing and I live in Manitoba, Canada where weather gets really cold. We use this to keep the cows on pasture throughout winter in order to bale graze.

 

 

 

Lucky Luc's picture

There's a company in Saskatchewan that specialized in solar powered livestock waterers. Basically, theres two types of systems.

 

First one is a trenched water line into a vertical casing in the ground. The bottom of the casing is sealed and long enough to go below the frost line. There's a submersible pump wired to a controller and powered by solar panels. There's a motion switch to detect the presence of animals, this starts the pump and feeds the through built atop the casing. When the motion detector stops seeing animals, its cuts out the pump and the water flows back under the freezing point.

The other uses a insulated through and the turnover created by the animals drinking to ensure water doesn't freeze.

www.kellnsolar.com

Much better description on the site. Will post pictures of ours at home. They run amazing and I live in Manitoba, Canada where weather gets really cold. We use this to keep the cows on pasture throughout winter in order to bale graze.

 

 

 

Lucky Luc's picture

There's a company in Saskatchewan that specialized in solar powered livestock waterers. Basically, theres two types of systems.

 

First one is a trenched water line into a vertical casing in the ground. The bottom of the casing is sealed and long enough to go below the frost line. There's a submersible pump wired to a controller and powered by solar panels. There's a motion switch to detect the presence of animals, this starts the pump and feeds the through built atop the casing. When the motion detector stops seeing animals, its cuts out the pump and the water flows back under the freezing point.

The other uses a insulated through and the turnover created by the animals drinking to ensure water doesn't freeze.

www.kellnsolar.com

Much better description on the site. Will post pictures of ours at home. They run amazing and I live in Manitoba, Canada where weather gets really cold. We use this to keep the cows on pasture throughout winter in order to bale graze.

 

 

 

R.J. Steinert's picture

I cross-posted to this forum post in a comment on that article. 

DGrover's picture

Are these links displaying as hyperlinks for you guys? They're appearing as plain text for me...

R.J. Steinert's picture

Hi Sarah,

I've worked on the Fido, the greenhouse alert system that sits in a greenhouse and sends a text message or email when the temperature is out of bounds. I've considered Thermodo for the Fido design but didn't go with it because interfacing Thermodo with a Raspberry Pi took an extra board that blew up the cost higher than going with a USB thermometer. With Android phones falling in price I think there is potential there that an Android phone could end up replacing the Raspberry Pi, in which case a Thermistor with a 3.5mm Audio connector would be a good fit for the design.

- RJ

bugman's picture
<p> Does anyone know if Main Street farm is still operating their bsf facility and if so how to contact them?</p> <p> Thanks~</p>
GaiaGrower's picture

Does anyone know of a tool that does what a tractor-driven roller crimper does with cover crops, but is operated by hand, without the compaction created by a tractor roller?

I'm working with a fellow who has 40 100 foot long raised beds, that he is growing vegetables on with a no-till system.  We're trying to get him much more involved with using cover crops, but the means to terminate them by hand, is currently lacking.  He doesn't use horses.

Thank you,

Baruch

green tractor farm's picture
<p> Hey Frank, I remember, great talking - there's a&nbsp;farmer near Rockland who might be interested - write me at <a href="mailto:greentractorfarm@gmail.com">greentractorfarm</a><a>@gmail.com</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Tim</p>
jbd's picture

Well, I've got 3 base stations and 5 ear tags working. Still waiting for nickel & dime hardware (connectors for batteries, boxes, ...)

The base station software is 95% complete - all that's left is (maybe) coding the failover logic when we lose wi-fi access and including the time-of-flight numbers for each ear-tag (even though it will be wrong).

Also, configuration of the system is non-trivial, so I'll probably have to code some auto-configuration logic into the system - but not before the end of the month.

The ear tags are a lot heavier than I wanted; the batteries are over 2/3 of the weight, but I wanted 1 mile distance between tags, and that consumes a lot of "juice". I may be able to conserve power by setting sleep intervals for the tags, but not in the first release!

Otherwise the base stations and "ear tags" are ready for outdoor testing. I just have to cut holes in the boxes and shrink wrap the ear tags. Then we can do some testing - so probably not until next weekend!

I expect to publish all the code and do presentations in January 2016. And maybe do some documenting...

The images are of a base station (out of the white weather-proof enclosure), and a top view of the base station. The last picture is of the "ear tag" transceivers - left one is a debugging connection hooked up to the computer, and the right one (with battery) will be shrinked-wrapped and applied to an ear tag.